TDKR Batman vs TellTale Batman

The fight takes place here on this roof.

Also since both these threads are very long, I'll just be showing a few feats, particularly the highlights of the feats in each section.

Strength

TDKR:

• Striking: Kicks a gun out of a man's hand and breaks a little bit of glass underneath his hand as well, then punches through a car's roof, punches through a concrete wall, kicks someone so hard that they crack a wall.
• Lifting/Throwing: Throws the Mutant Leader over his shoulder, throwing him a considerable distance., lifts a man above his head with one arm and then throws him into some glass bottles, throws five different cops off of him, lifts a boat with Joker on it and flips it, throws Joker across a cave and into a wall, easily lifts a man above his head and throws him into the ground.
• Pushing/Pulling: Pulls a man through an old wooden floor with one arm, Pulls a mutant through a concrete wall., snaps a shotgun in half.
• Other: [This is likely a grip strength feat] Cripples a man by shattering his femur.

TellTale:

• Striking: Slams a guard's head into a stone pillar, damaging it, staggers blockbuster, punches Deadshot through a brick wall.
• Lifting/Throwing: Hurls an armored merc across a room to take out two of his allies, throws Bane into a massive storage container, tipping it over and knocking him out, throws Black Spider into a roof, damaging it.
• Pushing/Pulling: Snaps a rifle in half.

Conclusion:

TDKR returns Bruce seems to be stronger in every category, with throwing being debatable. - Striking: TDKR Bruce has been shown to punch through cars and concrete walls. While yes, TellTale Bruce has punched people through a brick wall, I would argue easily punching through a concrete wall is more impressive. - Lifting/Throwing: For Lifting, it seems kinda obvious that TDKR Bruce is superior based on the feats shown here, such as him lifting someone over his head with no signs of difficulty and even doing it with one arm. But for throwing its closer since TellTale Bruce threw Bane who is pretty big and undoubtedly weighs a lot, but I would argue TDKR Bruce has a slightly better feat of throwing the Joker across a cave, and I think this is a better feat for a few reasons he threw Joker a much farther distance, and with less difficulty, and this Joker is pretty big too to where I can see him being comparable in weight to Bane. - Pushing/Pulling: Neither have any Pushing feats admittedly, but TDKR Bruce has better pulling based on him pulling an overweight man through concrete, seemingly easily too.

(1/0)

Durability/Endurance

TDKR:

• Blunt Durability: Is hit and then thrown a few times by the Mutant Leader and recovers by the time he walks over to him, unaffected after the Mutant Leader throws a flaming barrel at him.
• Piercing Durability: Punches through a window without being cut, unaffected after getting his chest slashed, seems unaffected after being thrown into some glass bottles, breaking them, doesn't seem too affected after having a bottle smashed against him, endures being tackled through a mirror by Joker, recovers a little after being slashed across the stomach and being shot previously.
• Endurance: Has bulletproof armor under his costume, which lets him endure being shot in the chest, endures getting suplexed and getting hit a few times by the Mutant Leader, endures some more attacks from the Mutant Leader, endures a beating from the Mutant Leader, endures being stabbed in the gut by Joker a few more times.

TellTale

• Blunt Durability: Punched in the face by Blockbuster, fights through multiple blows from Bane who was enhanced by venom before Bane throws him into a brick wall hard enough to collapse it, though all this damage ultimately leaves him in critical condition, even without his suit he blocks blows from Harley's sledgehammer without notable injury.
• Piercing Durability: His gauntlets are bullet proof even to shotguns and machine guns, when a merc throws a batarang back at him it harmlessly bounces off, After he improved the suit following Season 1, Deadshot shoots him in the chest with a sniper rifle and Batman quickly gets up even though he was using armor piercing rounds.
• Endurance: Keeps moving despite being shot, even while suffering from the after effects of being drugged he defends himself pretty well against a pair of attackers, maintained consciousness as Catwoman helped him straighten the rebar that had impaled him and eventually pull him off of it, the entire climax of his fight with Joker is done with a knife embedded in his arm.

Conclusion:

• Blunt and Piercing Durability: Both go to TellTale Bruce, Blunt since he was punched in the face by Blockbuster, fights through multiple blows from Bane who was enhanced by venom and even without his suit he blocks blows from Harley's sledgehammer without notable injury. And for Piercing Deadshot shot him in the chest with a sniper rifle and Batman quickly gets up even though he was using armor piercing rounds.
• Endurance: I would argue TDKR Bruce takes endurance though, in his fight with Joker he was shot in the stomach and a little bit later slashed across the stomach and then shortly after stabbed in the gut by Joker multiple times, and despite all of this he was still strong enough and smart enough to snap his neck with little effort, and specifically enough to paralyze him and not kill him. TellTale has good endurance feats too but TDKR took a lot of wounds to a pretty vital part of the body in a short period of time and for that I think he takes endurance.

(2/2)

Speed/Agility

TDKR:

• Travel speed: Using a grappling hook, he keeps up with and catches a speeding car, and saves a cop who was a short distance away from him from some machine gun fire.
• Combat speed: Ducks under an attack from the Mutant Leader and counter attacks, then endures more attacks and blocks a few more, blocks an attack from the Mutant Leader and lands a few attacks of his own, avoids even more attacks from the Mutant Leader while quickly landing many attacks on him.
• Reaction speed: Evades a lot of gunfire, avoids some close gunfire, avoids some automatic gunfire from point-blank range, avoids a considerable amount of automatic gunfire from multiple different cops, avoids some point blank gunshots from Joker, avoids a gunshot from Joker despite the gun being right in front of his face.
• Agility: Avoids a little bit of gunfire from a close distance, ducks under an attack from the Mutant Leader avoids some gunshots from Joker, avoids a gunshot from Joker despite the gun being right in front of his face.

TellTale:

• Travel speed: Leaps behind Falcone's desk ahead of a turret's aim, crosses a room far faster than his opponent can turn his gun and knocks him out, covers a short distance in seemingly no time before Harley can bash in a guard's skull, and stays ahead of an automatic turret's fire until Harley could destroy it.
• Combat speed: Swings a camera fast enough that he sweeps a merc's legs out and slams it into him before he hits the ground, when Penguin points a gun at him, he picks up a device and throws it at him before he can pull the trigger, when Bane's henchman aims a gun at him, he attacks Bane, turns around, and disarms him all before the henchman can fire.
• Reaction speed: Avoids several blows from Mr. Freeze who caught bullets, moves to the side to avoid a point blank shotgun shot and knocks out his attacker, Avoids Black Spider's close ranged gun shots, who is a professional assassin, ducks out of the way when Bane hurls a massive storage container at him, blocks Joker's gunshot, seemingly only moving after it was fired.
• Agility: Leaps through the hole in Falcone's balcony, jumps off a hanging light to ascend to a higher story, ascends high into the air from the batmobile to take out a merc, launches himself off the ground to knee an opponent in the face from across the room, runs up and flips off of a wall, when Bane's henchman aims a gun at him, he attacks Bane, turns around, and disarms him all before the henchman can fire.

Conclusion:

• Travel speed: This one goes to TellTale, and it isn't even close since he can practically fucking teleport lmao and TDKR Bruce really doesn't have anything even comparable to this.
• Combat speed: I feel like this goes to TDKR Bruce, he just has more consistent feats I feel of him avoiding attacks quickly and then landing multiple attacks even quicker, and more of TellTale's combat feats feel like they apply a bit more to Reaction than Combat imo, although they are close in this sub section of speed.
• Reaction speed: I'd argue this also goes to TDKR Bruce, TellTale Bruce has a pretty damn good scaling feat dodging attacks from Mr Freeze who caught bullets, but I'm a bit doubtful TellTale Bruce replicate the feat himself, and TDKR Bruce just has better feats imo like avoiding automatic gunfire from point blank range while in a small room or avoiding a gunshot from Joker despite the gun being right in front of his face.
• Agility: This goes to TellTale Bruce, simply more and better feats.

(4/4)

Intelligence/Skill

TDKR:

• Intelligence: Makes a plan where Robin is disguised as a mutant to lure all of the Mutants in one area, goes underwater to avoid the blast of an explosion, solves why Gotham is having a black out immediately, sets up multiple rockets to hit Superman, and made a Kryptonite arrow to be used on Superman.
• Skill: Was winning a car race before his car malfunctioned, it malfunctioned due to him tearing out wires to make it malfunction and escapes the car right before it explodes, dismembers a gun.
• Combat Skill: Blocks and dodges a few attacks from the Mutant Leader then claps his ears, disorienting him, lands a few attacks on the Mutant Leader and then blocks and Avoids some attacks from him while countering with a few of his own, avoids even more attacks from the Mutant Leader while landing some of his own attacks in between, slices the Mutant Leader's forehead open, avoids even more attacks from the Mutant Leader while quickly landing many attacks on him, avoids some attacks from the Mutant Leader and then lands a nerve bundle on his shoulder, making his arm unable to be moved the rest of their fight, disarms a cop of his gun and then takes his baton and easily beats him and a few other cops with it, and snaps Joker's neck, not enough to kill him, but enough to paralyze him.
• Accuracy: Throws multiple batarangs into a mutant's arm, while avoiding a lot of gunfire, disarms a man with a batarang and throws a batarang into another gun, throws a batarang on a rope at a cop's legs from behind while running, throws three batarangs at Joker while he's holding a hostage, none hit the hostage, two hit Joker in each shoulder and the third hits him in the eye.
• Stealth: Quickly vanishes after a light flashes, vanishes within the second a man looks away, snuck into a General's office, and shows up behind the Mutant Leader in a tunnel.

TellTale:

• Intelligence: Solves exactly how a warehouse shootout went down, figures out exactly how Vicki Vale murdered her adoptive parents and why, locates the exact location Alfred was being kept based solely on the reflection of his glasses, escapes the Riddler's trap room by seeing how the previous entrant failed and correcting their mistakes.
• Skill: Hacks into the Monarch Theatre's security feed with a few keystrokes, synthesizes the antidote to drug he had been injected with, predicted exactly how his fight with Black Spider would go, leading him into a position where he could incapacitate him, knows morse code.
• Combat Skill: Gets the better of Catwoman, eventually pinning her to the ground, defeats Penguin after an extended slugfest even disarming him of his power gauntlet and throwing him to the ground at one point, wins a 2v1 against Mr. Freeze and Bane, expertly blocking/deflecting their strikes, guiding their attacks into one another, and using his batarangs as short ranged blades, 2v1's Joker and Harley Quinn without any batgear long enough to free Catwoman of her shock collar and even the odds, Fights off Bane and several of his henchmen at the same time.
• Accuracy: Throws Catwoman's bag and a batarang at an awkward angle, pinning the former to a wall with the latter, throws four batarangs at once, incapacitating everyone they hit, jams the firing mechanism of Two Face's weapon, causing it to detonate, ricochets two batarangs off a wall to disarm Black Spider, knocks out a guard without needing to look back, throws four batarangs at once while midair, hitting all of his targets.
• Stealth: Systematically takes out a group of thieves breaking in to City Hall without being seen, vanishes from a rooftop the instant Gordon turns around, uses a smoke bomb to escape the view of his opponents after being surrounded, glides from the top of a bridge to a boat below, landing right behind a guard and throwing him overboard without being seen, and sneaks into Joker's base which was being guarded by federal agents.

Conclusion:

• Intelligence: Intelligence is close but I'd argue it goes to Old Bruce, since TellTale Bruce relies a bit on technology at time whereas Old Bruce does it the old fashion way, and immediately after being passed out he was able to solve why Gotham was having a blackout without needing to think about it much, and he's got pretty good planning like when he made a plan where Robin is disguised as a mutant to lure all of the Mutants in one area, set up multiple rockets to hit Superman, and made a Kryptonite arrow to be used on Superman, and made a mech suit to fight Superman in which he actually ended up winning.
• Skill: TellTale Bruce seems to be more skilled, just has more feats.
• Combat Skill: Honestly I think an argument could be made that Combat Skill is equal, TellTale Bruce is better at actually fighting, although not by much I think they are pretty close in that to where it could maybe be considered equal buy TellTale has better feats like winning a 2v1 against Mr. Freeze and Bane, expertly blocking/deflecting their strikes, guiding their attacks into one another, and using his batarangs as short ranged blades, but TDKR Bruce is a better strategist with how he avoided a few attacks from the Mutant Leader then claps his ears, disorienting him, slices the Mutant Leader's forehead open so he will have to worry about the blood going into his eyes during the fight, avoids some attacks from the Mutant Leader and then lands a nerve bundle on his shoulder, making his arm unable to be moved the rest of their fight, and snapping Joker's neck, not enough to kill him, but enough to paralyze him. So overall Combat Skill is equal imo.
• Accuracy: Accuracy is close but I'd say it goes to TellTale Bruce by a little, it's so close I honestly considering saying it's equal but after a bit more thinking I concluded that it goes to TellTale Bruce, more accurate for multiple targets generally, such as throwing four batarangs at once, incapacitating everyone they hit, another good feat is when he ricochets two batarangs off a wall to disarm Black Spider, and he knocked out a guard without needing to look back. I feel like the two are extremely close those since TDKR Bruce has some pretty good feats that are comparable imo, like throwing a batarang on a rope at a cop's legs from behind while running, throwing three batarangs at Joker while he's holding a hostage, none hit the hostage, two hit Joker in each shoulder and the third hits him in the eye, and while avoiding a lot of gunfire, disarms a man with a batarang and throws a batarang into another gun. Like, TellTale does have better accuracy feats, I just think it's close is all.
• Stealth: Stealth goes to Old Bruce I'd argue since he snuck into a military base and a General's office and showed up out of nowhere from behind the Mutant Leader in a tunnel despite us previously seeing he's not there, although TellTale has a pretty similar feat of sneaking into Joker's base which was being guarded by federal agents but I'd argue Old Bruce's feats are a little more impressive.

(7/7)

Equipment

(This will only feature the equipment that both seemingly carry on themselves usually, ignoring special occasions, and are also combat relevant.)

TDKR:

• Equipment: Batarangs, which can easily cut into a man's arm and can easily cut through a chain, a batarang on a rope, smoke bombs which have fear toxin in them, a small device in his belt he uses to freeze a bomb, a throwable substance which releases a black tar-like substance that gets stuck to an enemy, explosive Batarangs, and some small throwable explosives.

TellTale:

• Equipment: Batarangs which are strong enough to pierce stone and metal and he has a few other variations of batarangs such as a smoke batarang, explosive batarangs which knocks over a pile of cars, and sonic batarangs, a grappling hook, smoke bombs, sticky bombs, and stun discs.
• Bat suit: Has bulletproof gauntlets which cut catwoman's whip, has a bulletproof cape, has a gas mask attachment, can seal wounds.

Conclusion:

TellTale certainly has more equipment, especially with the batsuit in mind, although I would argue that TDKR has stronger equipment? His smoke bombs have fear toxin, and he has a large variety of explosives, his batarangs can also cut through metal chains easily. So I'll give each a point.

(8/8)

Results:

Out of all of the rumbles I've done so far this is BY FAR the closest one, and honestly after everything I think this might be a solid 50/50? In hand to hand it might lean slightly in Old Bruce's favor, he's stronger, and faster in combat while being a better strategist, TellTale Bruce is tanky as shit though and seems to be just as good in combat, so it could really go either way, but with weapons I'd lean to TellTale Bruce a little, he's got more variety in his equipment, TDKR Bruce primarily has explosives although his main weapon here would be the fear toxin since TellTale Bruce never dealt with that or anything too similar and I think that would probably incapacitate him, he does have a gas mask attachment which would be a quick and easy solution but if it gets knocked off then he might be screwed, but if he prevented the fear toxin from being used or effecting him someone then he has much likelier chances, he'd still need to watch out for batarangs as those will definitely pierce his armor, they pretty easily cut through chains, but he should be able to avoid them.

Overall, in hand to hand TDKR Bruce wins 6/10 times. And with weapons TellTale Bruce wins 6/10 times.